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Monday, April 6, 2009
Determinism + Free Will = Compatibilism <3
Recently a very intelligent man asked me: But is it possible that scientific organization of cause and effect and Free Will can go together? That is, if one accepts that the world is scientifically organized and every choice has a cause and effect that exists before and after, can Free Will still happen?
YES
In fact this is the view that Kant and Hume take!
The idea that free will and determinism are complimentary is called compatiblism because in this case determinism and free will are compatible like any given fly bitch and Jake Goldbas.
Two flavors of Determinism
This is what I see as one of two intelligent routes to take, because basically everyone accepts some form of cause and effect.
The other intelligent route is just to cut out free will all together, but that's not what we want, and it's not pragmatic. (This second route is actually what I am closer to today, although I am looking to get swayed if possible).
The United States legal system is based both on causality and a form of free will. Ultimately our legal system has a lot to do with Free Will.
Two flavors of Compatibilism
Kant thought that because we can't know things in themselves and only their appearances, and also because the infinite doctrine of Determinism is unverifiable (how could you verify something infinite?) anything less than free will is unacceptable. He also thought you need free will for morality.
Hume thought that cause and effect was different from Free Will. He thought they were separate. I don't completely understand Hume's rock and roll out of this thing, but it has to do with the way he defined the two terms, and to some extent this makes more sense to me as an incompatibilist argument.
YES
In fact this is the view that Kant and Hume take!
The idea that free will and determinism are complimentary is called compatiblism because in this case determinism and free will are compatible like any given fly bitch and Jake Goldbas.
Two flavors of Determinism
This is what I see as one of two intelligent routes to take, because basically everyone accepts some form of cause and effect.
The other intelligent route is just to cut out free will all together, but that's not what we want, and it's not pragmatic. (This second route is actually what I am closer to today, although I am looking to get swayed if possible).
The United States legal system is based both on causality and a form of free will. Ultimately our legal system has a lot to do with Free Will.
Two flavors of Compatibilism
Kant thought that because we can't know things in themselves and only their appearances, and also because the infinite doctrine of Determinism is unverifiable (how could you verify something infinite?) anything less than free will is unacceptable. He also thought you need free will for morality.
Hume thought that cause and effect was different from Free Will. He thought they were separate. I don't completely understand Hume's rock and roll out of this thing, but it has to do with the way he defined the two terms, and to some extent this makes more sense to me as an incompatibilist argument.
Sunday, April 5, 2009
Spinoza on Knowledge
Kant said that we would all be be Spinozists, if not for the difference between things in themselves and appearances (Marjorie Grene).
This is a big deal! (Maybe not?? Skepticism about skepticism?? Hahah go to hell, my brain) This is a big deal because Spinoza thinks that there are 3 basic types of knowledge. This was later used by Locke (born the same year as Spinoza).
My Professor Jesseph says they are like 3 octanes of knowledge.
1) The first one says that knowledge is your basic belief. Incidentally this is the one subject to the most mistakes. So sorry.
2) The next one is something that we could work out with a math proof. Like, say, the entire Ethics by Baruch Spinoza. (He thought that his proofs of ethics were so written that no one would be able to disagree with him). You can imagine this, though, right? Whats 1589 times 3695039? If you can do it in your head, you might have the third kind:
3) Intuition is where you just know. You just know, man. Not coincidentally, this is Spinoza's favorite. Basically throughout his prominent years, he went through his debates saying, "I know (blank) in the way that I know there are 3 sides to a triangle" There's a whole bunch of permutations of this that Spinoza says, and actually the phrase in itself might be taken from Xenophanes, who noticed that cow herdering societies prayed to cow Gods (why would they do that? But that's another story).
The problems with this will be discussed later, but should be more or less obvious to you on the second reading of the above (vicinity of questions you should ask yourself: why does this matter?)
People reading this blog might note that there are three types of knowledge and three types of friendship. Small, medium, and Large. For those of us who like Supersize, you're going to have to go to 1980's-1990's McDonald's. It might not exist anymore, kiddo.
So inquiring minds (and facadesaside blog followers) might connect:
1) Belief-Friendship to Aristotles' Event-Single Cause-or limited Duration Friendship
2) Math Proof Friendship to Aristotles' Pleasure in the Person Friendship
3) Intuition Friendship to Aristotles' Wishing Virtue in the Other person Frienship
Or permutations of the two!!!
Not surpisingly, Spinoza had an abundance of friends. Also not surprisingly, some of these were bad people who burned and stole some of his writings after he died (oops).
Ah! Jake we were always waiting for you to say this to us! Friendship!!! You've told us all we need to know!!! Never again will there ever be trouble!!
Here's a question for Dr. Pendlebury and Kant Scholars. Kant thinks we can know space, time, and cause and effect relations; but most certainly not things in themselves. What does Kant think about Friendship?? (Capital F)
This is a big deal! (Maybe not?? Skepticism about skepticism?? Hahah go to hell, my brain) This is a big deal because Spinoza thinks that there are 3 basic types of knowledge. This was later used by Locke (born the same year as Spinoza).
My Professor Jesseph says they are like 3 octanes of knowledge.
1) The first one says that knowledge is your basic belief. Incidentally this is the one subject to the most mistakes. So sorry.
2) The next one is something that we could work out with a math proof. Like, say, the entire Ethics by Baruch Spinoza. (He thought that his proofs of ethics were so written that no one would be able to disagree with him). You can imagine this, though, right? Whats 1589 times 3695039? If you can do it in your head, you might have the third kind:
3) Intuition is where you just know. You just know, man. Not coincidentally, this is Spinoza's favorite. Basically throughout his prominent years, he went through his debates saying, "I know (blank) in the way that I know there are 3 sides to a triangle" There's a whole bunch of permutations of this that Spinoza says, and actually the phrase in itself might be taken from Xenophanes, who noticed that cow herdering societies prayed to cow Gods (why would they do that? But that's another story).
The problems with this will be discussed later, but should be more or less obvious to you on the second reading of the above (vicinity of questions you should ask yourself: why does this matter?)
People reading this blog might note that there are three types of knowledge and three types of friendship. Small, medium, and Large. For those of us who like Supersize, you're going to have to go to 1980's-1990's McDonald's. It might not exist anymore, kiddo.
So inquiring minds (and facadesaside blog followers) might connect:
1) Belief-Friendship to Aristotles' Event-Single Cause-or limited Duration Friendship
2) Math Proof Friendship to Aristotles' Pleasure in the Person Friendship
3) Intuition Friendship to Aristotles' Wishing Virtue in the Other person Frienship
Or permutations of the two!!!
Not surpisingly, Spinoza had an abundance of friends. Also not surprisingly, some of these were bad people who burned and stole some of his writings after he died (oops).
Ah! Jake we were always waiting for you to say this to us! Friendship!!! You've told us all we need to know!!! Never again will there ever be trouble!!
Here's a question for Dr. Pendlebury and Kant Scholars. Kant thinks we can know space, time, and cause and effect relations; but most certainly not things in themselves. What does Kant think about Friendship?? (Capital F)
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Everybody's got something to hide except for me and my monkey!
Your inside is out and your outside is in
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So come on come on
Come on is such a joy
Come on is such a joy
Come on lets make it easy
Come on lets make it easy
Make it easy make it easy
Everybody's got something to hide except for me and my monkey!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1IoQJ_PVoM
Come on come on come on come on
Come on is such a joy
Come on is such a joy
Come on lets take it easy
Come on lets take it easy
Take it easy take it easy
Everybody's got something to hide except for me and my monkey!
The deeper you go the higher you fly
The higher you fly the deeper you go
So come on come on
Come on is such a joy
Come on is such a joy
Come on lets make it easy
Come on lets make it easy.
Take it easy take it easy
Everybody's got something to hide except for me and my monkey!
Your inside is out and your outside is in
Your outside is in and your inside is out
So come on come on
Come on is such a joy
Come on is such a joy
Come on lets make it easy
Come on lets make it easy
Make it easy make it easy
Everybody's got something to hide except for me and my monkey!
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